Nutrition for Wrestlers & Fighters – A Telesminar with Dr John Berardi and Michael Fry

If you’re a hard training combat or grappling athlete, you’ve simply gotta read this article

It comes to us from Dr John Berardi and Michael Fry, co-authors of The Grappler’s Guide to Sports Nutrition, a new book detailing exactly how wrestlers and grapplers of all types should be eating and supplementing to opttimize their body weight during both training and competition.

And not only do we like the book. The Brazilian Top team uses and endorses Dr Berardi and Mike’s ideas. Grapplers fighting in Pride, UFC, and Real Pro Wrestling use them. And a number of grappling coaches across the world have embraced their ideas as the very best way to prepare for grappling competition.


Mike Fry with the Brazillian Top Team
(In case you couldn’t tell, Mike’s the bald, pale guy standing up in the middle)

Seriously, these guys are no joke!

So, without much further adieu, let’s get into the article…

Mike Fry:
Tonight we’re going to talk about a whole host of topics, from the best foods to eat, to the best methods of weight loss for grapplers and wrestlers. It’s going to be a huge, exciting, and useful call. Dr Berardi?

Dr Berardi:
I agree, it’s also going to be a fun call! We’ve got a huge audience listening in on the phone and likely millions more will be listening to this one the web! So why not take the bull by the horns and get right down to debunking some of the common and really negative grappling preparation strategies?

Now, you and I both know that there are some “time approved” methods of cutting weight that grapplers use that aren’t what I would call “physiologically approved.” In other words, the body doesn’t like them at all.
And, as a result, grapplers lose strength and power – heck, some have even lost their lives.

Mike Fry:
You’re right. So let’s get into that right now. The No. 1 topic I want to address is weight loss methods used by grapplers. And the reason I want to bring this up is because a majority of them are based on either excessive exercise or voluntary dehydration.

Now, a recent survey demonstrated that:

  • 73% of grapplers used running/jogging to lose weight
  • 59% used other devices such as exercise bikes, ropes for jumping, and climbing ropes
  • 34% used rubber suits or nylon tops as a method of weight loss
  • 14 % used the sauna
  • 8% used throwing up as a means to lose weight
  • 5% used spitting, trying to get rid of excess saliva
  • 2% used diuretics

The reason I want to bring this up is that nearly every one of these methods is a problem! The exercise used (slow cardio) actually impairs muscle strength and power development. And the other methods dehydrate the body – and without adequate re-hydration strategies, huge problems could result.

The worst part is that none of the strategies were centered on the use of proper nutrition!

It’s amazing how in other sports, athletes are taught the right nutritional strategies to reach their ideal body weight yet in grappling/wrestling, it’s all about the wrong type of exercise, the sauna, and sweat. So what we’re going to try to do here today is, as Dr.Berardi has said, come up with different methods and teach grapplers and parents and coaches that there are alternatives out there for this type of weight loss.

Teague Moore – Real Pro Wrestler who uses the Grappler’s Guide

Dr Berardi:
I wanted to chime in on this one because I really want to emphasize just how crazy those stats are, Mike!

I mean, the real number one controlling factor for an athlete’s body composition and body weight is their nutritional intake. Yet, the fact that these athletes are doing the wrong exercise, using rubber suits, saunas, vomiting, spitting, fat burners, and diuretics tells us just how far off the mark the grappling community really is.

Seriously, let’s start with the exercise. Long, slow, cardio-type exercise causes muscle fibers to become more “slow twitch” – a characteristic of endurance athletes. These fibers contract more slowly and they have lower strength and power capacity. So, as grappling is based on explosive speed and power, the last thing you want to do is do low intensity exercise that will ultimately make you slower, less powerful, and weaker!

Here’s an example of this very thing in action.

I started working with a female national level bobsled athlete. Before working with me, she was overfat and needed to lose weight for her sport. She was training hard, trying to “train her way into shape, yet the weight wasn’t coming off. So, after going to her original dietitian, she was told to eat less and to do the Stair Master a couple days a week to lose the extra body weight. Well, guess what happened? She lost a bit of weight – yet she also got worse at her sport.

And that’s what 73 percent of the wrestlers in the particular survey were doing!

It just pisses me off when I hear this advice! Grappling/wrestling is not an aerobic sport. So grapplers should not be training aerobically. Not at any level. Not to condition, not to drop weight, never! It’s just stupid. Especially when grapplers can get into even better condition focusing on interval and power work as well as eating properly!

Mike Fry:
I agree 100%. Let’s get into the dehydration part too!

A lot of people don’t understand this, but dehydration by only 3 percent of your body weight can cause you to lose 10 percent of your muscle strength and 8 percent of your speed. So, unfortunately, while we’re out there trying to lose weight, we’re actually losing the things that we need the most, which are speed and strength.

Dr Berardi:
You know, we just talked about one foolish way to lose weight for wrestling, and grappling – going out and doing a bunch of exercise that doesn’t specifically help you with your sport.

The second foolish way we’re talking about now is the dehydration method. Now, Mike mentioned some figures. A 3 percent loss of body water causes a 10 percent loss of strength and an 8 percent loss of speed. However, even a 1 percent reduction in body water causes a reduction in performance!

But, before this gets too numbers-based, let’s put this into perspective. Take a 155lb grappler. For that individual, a 2 percent loss of body water or body mass is about 3 pounds.

So, if any of you are sitting out there thinking “how much weight do I need to lose before I see my performance start to suffer?” – it’s 3 lbs for a 155lb guy. For a 200lb grappler it’s 4lbs.

Drop that small amount of water too quickly, not getting it back before your event, and you’re already seeing drops in performance. Most grapplers try to lose much more then this, don’t they?

Mike Fry:
Yea, they do. And unfortunately, when you break the numbers down, that’s a huge problem! I mean, you can lose four or five pounds at practice without even trying. Even a single practice can put you at that state of dehydration to where your performance is starting to suffer.

Dr Berardi:
So, truth be told, there are really two primary methods that most grapplers would use to lose weight – and neither is optimal. First, they go exercise in a way that doesn’t actually support their own training for grappling. And secondly, they lose a bunch of water weight quickly before an event, five, eight pounds, whatever the case may be, through dehydration.

Mike Fry:
People often wonder why we and other experts harp on this dehydration thing and my answer is that it’s because it’s that important!

If you take two wrestlers, and put them on a mat together – both dehydrated – and maybe the disadvantages will cancel each other out. However what if we can put a wrestler on the mat that isn’t dehydrated against one who is? All of a sudden, you have a different event.

Dr Berardi:
That’s right – the point is to figure out how to get grapplers into the ring or on the mat without a huge amount of dehydration, with full body strength and power, and with a low body fat percentage.

You see grapplers all the time who try to drop 10 lbs of water for an event when they should have been focusing all along on losing the extra 10 lbs of non-contractile body fat they don’t need. So, again, focusing on water is such a mistake because if you can learn the principles of good nutrition, you can get rid of body fat instead of body water. Coming in at your ideal weight is then a lot easier.

Mike Fry:
Well, that’s a fantastic point and that leads us into our next section.

The reason for the call is proper nutrition for grapplers. But before we get into the food, I have to sound off about something related to young athletes. It always drives me nuts when I see 9,10,15-year-old kids trying to cut weight while their overweight coaches and parents push them to go out there and run and spit and do everything that they can do to lose weight! All the while the booths at the games and tournaments just breed poor nutrition with concessions full of junk food.

So our young athletes start out with the wrong messages from parents, coaches, and their environment.

And make no mistake; this is carried throughout their lives.

Truly, for sport and sport nutrition to improve, parents, coaches, and even organizers out there need to start learning this stuff too so that the next generation of athletes get better information than what the typical North American gets – which is just garbage.

Dr Berardi:
Yep, young athletes develop a history of poor eating habits and this starts at young ages. And these habits are carried with them into their adult years. Of course, in a single article or teleseminar it’s tough to teach all the principles of good nutrition. We all have lifetimes of experience and education in eating a specific way – the North American diet. And the North American diet isn’t so good.

None of us are immune. We learn through our parents. We learn through our culture and our media. Unfortunately, beyond even the fast food and junk food, the sports nutrition messages aren’t that good either. Here’s an example. Mike, what do most athletes think they have to eat a lot of?

Mike Fry:
Well, for strength athletes, protein.

For other athletes, carbs.

Dr Berardi: Right! These are conventional media-type messages. You’ve got to eat a lot of this or that.

Well, here’s the problem – what is a protein?

If you’re a young athlete or not educated in nutrition, you’ve gotta go figure out what a protein is – what that means. Or a carb, etc.

And even if they do know what carbs are, you find them shoveling down pasta and rice and bagels and stuff like that because they think it’s going to give them energy. The problem – the foundation of a good nutrition plan is less about eating lots of any particular food. And it’s less about certain foods being good or bad. It’s really about 3 things:

The first is how much you’re going to be eating. You’ve got to figure out how many calories to eat every day to improve your body composition and your performance. The second thing is what you’re going to be eating. In other words, you’ve got to focus on making better food selections, getting more of the good foods in ya.

Finally, it’s about when you’re going to be eating. That’s a concept I call nutrient timing.

I will tell you this – it’s not about eating as much carbs as you can, or eating as much protein as you can, or about good vs. bad foods. But again, like I said, the real challenge at stake here is that every single one of us on this call, every single one of us in North America, is influenced the most by culture.

We watch the news, we read the papers, and we read web sites. But these snippets of information only serve to confuse us. So we need a comprehensive re-education. And I’ll tell you how I deal with my athletes. The first thing I do if an elite Grappler contacts me is to send him a copy of the Grappler’s Guide.

But that’s only the first step.

After they check it out and they begin their “re-education”, after they start to learn things like the 10 Habits, after they learn tips for managing body weight, after they start to lean how to cut weight quickly, safely, and effectively, I fly in and do some private teaching with them.

This begins the re-education process. Now they can really talk about fine-tuning their nutrition, with my help, of course.

Pride Fighter and Top Team member Paulo Filho lovin’ the Grappler’s Guide

Mike Fry:
So, to truly get athletes eating right, it’s about re-education and learning a new lifestyle – not just focusing on protein or carbs.

Dr Berardi:
Exactly!

Mike Fry:
Good stuff!

Now I have a question. How much different are the needs of the competitive athlete vs. a non-athlete?

Dr Berardi:
This all plays back, Mike, into the whole idea of the how much to eat, what to eat and the when to eat it.

First, athletes do need more calories. They need more total energy intake to support their high intensity training. But, we can’t simply just tell athletes to go out and eat more calories, because if we’re not telling them what the right foods are to eat, then they’ll eat more of the wrong stuff. By saying eat more; we’re prescribing about 1,000 different diets. Athlete No. 1 may be eating a bunch of empty calories. You might say, “Go eat more calories”, and all they end up with is more sugar and junk. You take another athlete and you say, “Go eat more calories”, and they might triple their protein intake, but not increase their good fat intake or good carbohydrates.

So obviously, athletes do need more, but they need more of the good stuff.

Another difference is nutrient timing. For the average person who doesn’t exercise, their body pretty much responds to food similarly throughout the day. However, if you take someone who’s training hard, their exercise changes their ability to tolerate and use certain nutrients. Let me give you an example.

Okay, let’s say I wake up in the morning and I either go to work or go to school. Then, after work or school, I train. Well, the way that my body handles nutrition up until my workout is very different from how it handles nutrition during and after my workout. During and after the workout, some of you may have heard it called the window of opportunity or post-workout window, the body preferentially burns fat and it stores carbohydrates and protein in the muscle.

So you end up a powerful recovery mechanism built into the exercise period and post-exercise period. Your body just wants great nutrition at this time but also nutrition that’s quickly digested and sent to the muscles.

Now, the rest of the day, the same types of things aren’t happening. So, throughout most of the day, you want to focus on eating a specific way – namely slower digested foods. While during and after exercise you want to focus on faster digested foods.

So those are two important “athlete vs. non-athlete” differences. Athletes typically need more calories and more good nutrition (and that includes vitamins, minerals, everything else) and better nutrient timing.

Mike Fry:
And speaking of nutrient timing, a lot of people wonder about when to time meals before, during, and after exercise. How does that work?

Dr Berardi:
Well, let’s start with before exercise. It’s likely no surprise that exercise at high intensity can make you feel like dropping your lunch.

However, different people can tolerate different things. Some of my athletes can eat 30min before training and others have to eat 2 hours before. It also has a lot to do with what you’re eating. Fast digested stuff can be eaten closer to exercise without as much difficulty.

Yet, in the end, this is a comfort thing, not a “good nutrition” thing per se. The real good nutrition practices focus on what you’re eating every meal of every day. To be honest, there is no magical food and no magical time period in which eating will lead to your best workouts. The key to having consistently good workouts is eating well all the time. And the only thing you can do during the exercise to make sure you don’t bonk is to make sure 2 things don’t happen. First, you need to make sure your blood sugar doesn’t crash. That’s what makes you feel light-headed and out of energy. The second is not eating something that bugs your stomach.

To maintain blood sugar, you need to slowly sip a carbohydrate or carbohydrate/protein drink during exercise. To avoid feeling sick to your stomach, experiment with eating different times prior to exercise. Even if you eat 2 hours prior, you won’t bonk as long as you sip the carb or carb/protein drink during training.

Mike Fry:
Great stuff!

A lot of times I see people, especially at tournaments, trying to shove down food to make it to the next match. Or they won’t eat at all out of fear. Then they’re flat come the end of the day. So I think it’s a very good point that you brought up, that you just kind of have to feel yourself out and just try and understand what your time line is for the best plan for you.

Now, you mentioned protein and carbohydrate drinks. There’s always the question of how to make them. Do you have any recommendations on the best way to go about doing that?

Dr Berardi:

There are a few ways to do it. First, when I was a PhD student at the University of Western Ontario, my lab and I developed a product, a recovery drink, called Biotest Surge.

Surge is something we developed that contains protein carbohydrates in ratios that we found to be good for recovery in both strength/power athletes and aerobic athletes. I suggest finding some and giving it a try. I describe how to use it in the Grappler’s Guide. However, keep in mind, Surge is awesome but it’s no magic bullet. It works great in conjunction with a comprehensive nutrition plan, not instead of one!

Mike Fry:

So John, let’s talk about some guidelines for a great, comprehensive nutrition plan.

Dr Berardi:
Sure, Mike. I believe all great sports nutrition plans should be based on the 10 Habits we outline in the book.

I’ll talk about the first 5 here.

The first habit is to eat every two to three hours, no matter what. If you’re not doing that, you don’t have any right to ask me questions about creatine, magic supplements, etc. Eat every two to three hours no matter what – get that down, and then ask about supplements.

The second habit is to eat lean protein with each feeding. Every time you feed, I’m not just talking about breakfast, lunch and dinner, but every time – you need to have a lean, complete protein source. If you’re confused on what’s a protein, we cover that in the book.

The third habit is to eat fruits and veggies with every feeding. This one is difficult for some to get their heads around so I’ll emphasize it again. I mean every time! So if you’re eating every two to three hours, you can see how you’re building your meal. So, the first thing you do when it’s time to eat is to grab some lean protein. Then you’ll next find fruits and veggies.

The fourth habit deals with carbohydrate intake. Now if you really want to maximize nutrient timing, the bulk of your non-fruit and veggie carbs should come during and after exercise. So what might that look like? Do you feel like having some pasta, some bread, some rice, or some potatoes? Save them for after your training session and the rest of the day stick to fruits, veggies good proteins, and good fats.

The fifth habit deals with dietary fat. It’s important not to avoid dietary fat as the balance of fat in your diet can improve performance, improve body composition, improve injury healing, and more. Most people don’t even think about supplementing with good fats like olive oil, fish oil, and flax seed oil. Yet all these things should be in your diet.

So, let’s review those first 5 habits really quickly.

  • Eat every two to three hours. Are you doing that?
  • Each time you eat, every two to three hours, eat some protein.
  • Each time you eat, every two to three hours, eat some fruits and veggies.
  • If you’ve just worked out, it’s great time to have some starchy carbohydrates like pasta, things like that. If you haven’t, you should probably eat less of them in favor of the fruits and veggies.
  • Balance out your fats, supplementing things like olive oil, flax seeds, flax oil, fish oil, etc.

These are the fundamentals. So, what I want every single one of you reading this article to try to achieve these first 5 goals. I’ll teach you the next 5 in the Grappler’s Guide.

Make sure you’re doing these things before you ever look for recovery drinks, creatine, fat burners, diuretics, etc. Get this stuff together as you’ll find that your body will quickly reshape itself with less body fat, more lean mass, and you’ll also find that weight control is going to be easy.

You’ll be able to train consistently hard and effectively, and your competition performances are going to be stable.

If you don’t follow this advice and obsess about the creatines and the other little things that don’t make as much of a difference, you’re not going to see the benefits that we’re talking about.
I’ve done this for long enough to know that most people focus on the wrong things, ignoring the important things. I really want to shift your focus toward the most important stuff.

Mike Fry:
I think that’s a very good point John because my email’s being pounded with questions about post-workout nutrition drinks and I’m glad that you went over those tips.

One thing in regard to that though, is that grapplers, wrestlers in particular, might get scared off with the every 2-3 hour thing because of school or work or whatever. They might think they can’t eat all this food. And they might also think it’s too much food.

Dr Berardi:
Right. Well, you know, Mike, it’s a great point and it leads me back into what I was saying earlier. You’ve gotta choose the right foods. If you sit down to a lunch of cheese fries, cheese steak hoagies, and soda, and then have a dinner like that, and in between eat equally crappy food, eating every 3 hours might not work for ya. But neither will the 3 crappy meals anyway so you’re screwed!

The point is to eat the right things every few hours, which includes nutrient dense foods. I can’t get into them all here but in the Grappler’s Guide, I list the 21 Super Foods that every grappler should be eating daily.

These foods and the ideas in the book will help grapplers boost their metabolic rates so that they’ll lose more weight eating every 2-3 hours than they would starving for a week before an event.

Also, with respect to the time constraints on the student athlete, I understand how challenging it can be. But it’s possible – in fact, all my high school athletes do it. It just takes some planning, some pre-made meals stowed away in the schoolbags, in the lockers, etc. Eating every three hours is a lifestyle for my athletes and they all find ways.

One great way is to make your own healthy bars and snacks at home. In my Gourmet Nutrition book (which people can pick up along with the Grappler’s Guide at www.grapplersnutrition.com, I outline all sorts of healthy snacks that athletes can prepare at home and bring with them.

Mike Fry:
I want to now move ahead a bit. I want to bring some questions about Saturday morning. We’ve general nutrition but now I’d like to talk prep for competition, making weight, etc.

There are still a lot of guys out there doing some of the harmful, performance reducing, “old school” methods of starvation and dehydration. In the book, you’ve outlined some strategies for making weight that I’d never heard about before. Now, I’ve been involved in the sport of grappling and wrestling in general for about 25 years and thought I’d seen it all.

Yet you’ve got some stuff that’s crazy effective and safe, too.

Dr Berardi:
Yep, the material I outline in the book to drop 10-15lbs, if necessary, safely and effectively leading up to an event is based on my work with both bodybuilders and grapplers. There are certain supplements, foods, and water manipulation strategies that really maximize the body’s ability to drop weight quickly as well as re-hydrate quickly.

I won’t spill all the info here as I want everyone reading this to pick up the book and to apply these strategies. They work better than you’d imagine.

Mike Fry:
What about re-hydration? For those who don’t pick up the book yet continue to do their stupid weight-loss strategies, how can we help them?

Dr Berardi:
Well, let’s say that our athlete is dehydrated and has 2 hours to replenish their water or else suffer performance losses.

Studies have shown that you can maximally re-hydrate the body by about a liter per hour. So, theoretically, in two hours, you can get 2L (4.4 pounds of body water) back. So, if you only lose 2-4lbs to make weight, re-hydration is fairly easy. If you dehydrate more, you likely won’t get it all back.

The best way to re-hydrate is to sip a re-hydration beverage slowly leading up to your event. Your impulse is to gulp. Don’t do it. Sip! Also, the best re-hydration drinks contain water, carbohydrate, and some sodium. Pedialyte is a good choice. Gatorade with an extra tsp of sea salt is a good choice. You can even use the Biotest Surge product mentioned earlier with some extra sea salt.

Mike Fry:
Great stuff!

Dr Berardi:
The important lesson is this. If you need to make weight and you’re four, five days out from an event, you need to make sure you’re as close as three pounds away from your competition weight. This way you won’t even consider going doing some crazy exercise, you won’t have to put a stupid rubber suit on, and you won’t have to do much more than a slight dehydration the last three days.

And, of course, we teach you how to do that nutritionally in the book. Then, all you have to do is just re-hydrate in that next hour, get the two to three pounds of fluid back, and then go kick ass. But again, the lesson is this. If you have eight pounds to lose, you blew it, buddy. However, we’ve still got tricks for that in the book.

I want you to learn not to make a habit of being 10+lb. over before the event! And how can you learn that – it’s in the book. You have to make sure you’re getting rid of body fat rather than water weight. This is definitely possible if you get control over your nutrition.

Don’t take care of the body fat and you’re just hoping and praying that you’re not overweight when it’s time to weigh in. And that’s not a good way to live. What we’re trying to do with this book is to put people at the driver’s seat of their body weight and composition.

Mike Fry:
John, this is some great information you’re sharing here! I’m pretty confident that everyone reading this will want to pick up the Grappler’s Guide right away. Heck, this info goes beyond grapplers alone. Any athlete who needs to cut weight including jockeys, bodybuilders, gymnasts, etc would benefit from this. Heck, even parents who are going to a reunion or a wedding and want to look good in a certain dress can benefit. Even they starve themselves to try to lose weight. What a mistake! Especially when info like what you’ve included in the book is out there, Dr Berardi.

This is the end of the interview excerpt. If you want to learn more, pop over to www.grapplersnutrition.com.

Written by Dr Berardi and Michael Fry

Discuss, comment or ask a question

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About the Authors:

Dr Berardi

Dr Berardi has been around the block so many times he makes the mailman look like a slacker. A nutrition consultant to everyone from hockey players to soccer moms, when this guy talks sports nutrition – you’d better listen. Need more convincing? Well, how’s this work for ya?

Dr. Berardi is currently the director of performance nutrition for the Canadian National Cross Country Ski and Alpine Teams as well as the Canadian National Canoe/Kayak teams. He also consults with a number of elite level individual athletes, sports teams, and Olympic training centers including:

  • The Toronto Maple Leafs
  • The US Bobsled Team
  • The Canadian National Speed Skating Team
  • The Calgary Sports Centre/Olympic Oval (Calgary, Alberta)
  • The Manitoba Sports Centre (Winnipeg, Manitoba)
  • The University of Texas Women’s Track and Field Team

Some have called him “the greatest sports nutrition mind in the world today,” and as such, athletes in nearly every sport including professional football (NFL and CFL), professional hockey (NHL and AHL), professional baseball (MLB), and professional basketball (NBA) hire Dr. Berardi to get the absolute best results.

He is also the author of Precision Nutrition, the nutrition system used by Dr. John Berardi’s personal clients and athletes to build lean, muscular, high-performance physiques in record time. 

Michael Fry

Michael Fry is the owner of Grapplers Gym and www.grapplersgym.com. Grapplers Gym is the home for advanced fitness and conditioning for today’s combat athletes. Some of the best grapplers in the world turn to Michael and Grappler’s gym when looking to take their game to the next level.

Michael has worked with combat athletes from around the world that include members of The Brazilian Top team, fighters from Pride, UFC, and also Olympic team members. If you’re a combat athlete you owe it to yourself to get in touch with Michael and the team at Grapplers Gym today…

It’s important to understand that this article comes as an excerpt from an actual tele-seminar the Dr Berardi and Mike have recorded and provided FOR FREE, in its entirety, at www.grapplersnutrition.com. So, if you like what you read, get over to their site and download the full, FREE tele-seminar right away.

Hanging With Eric Cressey

Most guys by age 25 aren’t all that accomplished. They might be just finishing up their schooling, or have recently moved out of their parents’ house. The average guy wouldn’t come close to graduating from the number one-ranked Kinesiology program in the United States, let alone hold a Masters degree in Kinesiology, and be a published author with over 70 articles to his name. Nor would he, with a body-weight of 165 pounds, hold a world record and some national titles in power-lifting with totals of 1532 pounds. No, the average guy wouldn’t be training professionals and Olympic athletes and be expert in injury prevention and rehab treatment. But then, Eric Cressey, is not your average guy.

Did I mention that he’s only 25 years old?

Wannabebig: Eric, it’s a pleasure to be able to get you to spill the beans on a range of topics. Looking at what you’ve accomplished so far and where you’re headed, it looks like you’re going to achieve some great things in the future.

Eric C: Thank you.

Wannabebig: So, what do you currently do, now that you’re done with school?

Eric C: Humorously enough, you could probably call me the busiest unemployed guy in the world right now! I guess that warrants explanation, huh?

I actually just parted ways with a facility here in Southern Connecticut in April, and I’ll be moving up to Boston, August 1st, to help get Excel Sports and Fitness Training (www.excelstrength.com) off the ground with Rebecca Manda, John Sullivan, and Brad Cardoza. Carl Valle and Matt Delaney will also be helping the cause. They’re a great group of coaches who are going to do phenomenal things with athletes and weekend warriors of all levels; I’m really excited to be a part of such a fantastic opportunity. Plus, I’m a Boston guy at heart and originally from Maine, so it’ll nice to be closer to my family and longtime friends.

In the meantime, in addition to my regular online consulting and writing gigs, I’m tying up some loose ends on a variety of writing projects and doing a lot of traveling to speak at and attend conferences.
Perhaps more noteworthy, though, is the fact that I’m getting back up to the University of Connecticut a few times per week to work with the athletes I helped coach while I was doing my master’s degree from 2003 to 2005.

It’s nice to be able to see a lot of these athletes through – especially when we’ve had three drafted into the WNBA and anticipate having six drafted to the NBA (something that’s never happened before).
It’s an exciting time; we’re getting the guys ready for their workouts with individual teams and, in some cases, the NBA combine in Chicago. Toss in working with those athletes who still have eligibility, and it makes for an exciting atmosphere.

In all honesty, all the writing and information products could make the online thing a full-time job for me. I just don’t have it in me to become one of those “internet gurus” who doesn’t actually train people. I got into this industry because I like to build freaky athletes and get people healthy; there’s only so much you can do through a computer screen. I will say, though, that I’m appreciating the little bit of time off. This is the first time since I was 15 that I haven’t been full-time employed or taking high school or college courses. I’m 25, and have been able to accomplish quite a bit for my age; (unfortunately?), it’s largely because I’m as bad a workaholic as you’ll ever meet. This downtime has really given me a recharge with respect to my writing and presenting, and it’s definitely helped my own training (actually getting some sleep is a nice change).

Wannabebig: Sounds to me like your plate is full. How did you get started in the industry?

Eric C: Growing up, I was your typical “athletic fat kid.” I loved sports and did well in them, but could have been so much better if I had eaten right. High school came along, and I was an all-state in tennis and soccer in spite of not being the most remarkable physical specimen around; I pretty much lived and died by my knowledge of the game, as I wasn’t going to outrun anyone.

I got a lot of interest from Division II and III college coaches for both sports, but I wanted to play soccer, as I had a bum shoulder from all the years of tennis (and not knowing how to train correctly to rehab it). However, the main thing that was holding me back – the “knock on me,” if you were a college coach – was my lack of speed and overall strength; I was oversized (roughly 185, which is pretty big for a soccer midfielder and marking back), but didn’t have the horsepower behind my weight. With that in mind, I pretty much went cold turkey to the “hardcore dieting” lifestyle after my senior year of soccer. I was training (lifting and running) more than four hours per day on top of my tennis season, and playing indoor soccer twice a week in addition to all my extracurricular activities at school (I finished second in my class, so I had a ton of stuff going on). I was probably eating 1000 calories per day – if that.

At first, things went well – just as they do for every newbie to exercise. I started shedding body fat, packing on some muscle, and getting stronger and faster. And, like most newbies, I immediately fell into the “if this much is good, even more must be better” mentality. I pushed the bar even higher, and in the end, I wound up looking like a cancer patient and destroyed all my chances of playing college soccer; I was actually hospitalized at one point. My immune system was so beaten down from over-training that a sinus infection nearly killed me.

Note: Sometimes, even seasoned professionals in the field make the most common mistakes. The good ones learn and move on.

After screwing around with doctors who didn’t understand my goals at all, during my first year of college (1999-2000), my neighbor introduced me to Daryl Conant, a competitive bodybuilder and strength and conditioning coach who had experience with several Olympic athletes. Daryl took me under his wing and sparked a passion in me for proper training and nutrition, and I took it from there. I read everything on which I could get my hands, and eventually starting working for him at his gym. I even transferred schools to change my major.

Things just blossomed for me because my personal and professional goals went hand-in-hand. I gained about 80 pounds in two years of training, and eventually settled on competitive power-lifting. Five years to the month after being released from the hospital, I set a Connecticut State dead-lift record in the Junior 165 class with a pull of 510 pounds in my first meet. Less than a year later, I set a world record. I’m now closing in on Elite status, with competition bests of 540 squat, 402 bench, 628 dead-lift, and a 1532 total in the 165-pound weight class. I’m generally 185-190 pounds throughout the year, and just come down in weight for my meets. I’ve just decided to “officially” make the jump up to 181; cutting to 165 is just too hard on my system.

Wannabebig: With all these accomplishments you must have some paper to back it up. What’s your educational background like?

Eric C: I started out at Babson College, as I thought that I wanted to be an accountant. Shortly thereafter, though, I realized that I was more passionate about training and nutrition than I was about staring at the stock ticker all day, so I transferred to the University of New England.

There, I double majored in Exercise Science and Sports and Fitness Management, graduating with 168 credits in an undergraduate experience that can only be described as masochism!

I went on to get my master’s degree in Kinesiology with a concentration in Exercise Science at the University of Connecticut, where I was involved in strength and conditioning of the varsity athletes and research in the human performance lab. Each day, I had the opportunity to work with some world-class athletes and top-notch researchers in the areas of health and human performance. The UCONN Department of Kinesiology was recently voted the #1 Kinesiology Graduate Program in the US; it is an incredible place to be, and I was really fortunate to be a part of the great things they’re doing.

Wannabebig: What made you decide to work in this industry?

Eric C: Well, the main reason is that it doesn’t feel like “work.” They say that if you love what you do, you’ll never work a day in your life. I’m a perfect example.

I’m lucky to be in a position to be comfortable with virtually everyone who walks through the door to work with me; there aren’t many populations to whom I can’t relate. I’ve been the fat guy. I’ve been the scrawny guy. I’ve been the weak guy. I’ve been the strong guy looking to get stronger. I’ve been the injured guy. I’ve been the sick guy. I’ve been an up-and-coming athlete without direction. I’ve been the accomplished athlete with a frame of reference for what it takes to reach the next level.

Whether you’re a grandmother with a bad lower back, or a projected NBA lottery pick, I can walk a mile in your shoes and make you better. It might sound conceited, but that couldn’t be further from the truth; it’s just that nothing really phases me anymore. I’d put my experiences, passion, and knowledge against those of anyone in the industry.

Wannabebig: Are there any people that have influenced your way of thinking, have helped define who you are as a coach and put you on the path to success at such a young age?

Eric C: Well, obviously, I’m forever indebted to Daryl for introducing me to something that not only developed into my passion and my career, but for saving my life. It might seem embellished to the naked eye, but what he did for me really was that valuable.

I’m thankful to guys like Chris West, Brijesh Patel, and Pat Dixon for taking me under their wing in the world of strength and conditioning when I first arrived at UCONN. I’ve also been fortunate to have great guys like Alwyn Cosgrove, John Berardi, Jason Ferruggia, Dave Tate, and Mike Boyle to whom I can turn on the business and politics aspects of things in the industry; these guys have saved me thousands of dollars and lots of wasted time by relating their experiences. I owe TC Luoma and Tim Patterson a lot for taking a chance on a young guy like me in accepting my first article at T-Nation and sticking with me.

Mike Robertson, Tony Gentilcore, and Cassandra Forsythe have been the best friends and colleagues a guy could ever want; I wouldn’t be where I am today if it wasn’t for all the brainstorming we’ve done together. The UCONN Department of Kinesiology faculty and graduate students taught me to think critically, and for that I am grateful – especially to great researchers like Drs. William Kraemer, Carl Maresh, and David Tiberio. The entire crew at South Side gym has been tremendously helpful, too – as is the entire power-lifting community, especially guys like Steve Coppola, Jay Floyd, Jesse Burdick, Bob Youngs, and Eric Talmant (just to name a few). I’m fortunate that I can just pick up the phone and talk shop with some of the best in the business; people like John Sullivan, Landon Evans, Joe DeFranco, Kelly Baggett, Mike Tufo, Michael Hope, Buddy Morris, Jeff Oliver, Ryan Lee, Jim Wendler, Zach Even-Esh, Brian Grasso, Brad Cardoza, Rebecca Manda, Carl Valle, and Tim Skwiat are just a call away. It sounds like name dropping, but the truth is that I’ve learned a lot from a lot of people, so I’m sure I’m forgetting some; thanks, guys!

I guess that the take-home message is to borrow a little bit from a lot of people en route to creating your own philosophy.

Wannabebig: On that note, what is your training philosophy?

Eric C: Train your body to work efficiently and take care of your diet and lifestyle, and you’ll be rewarded with a physique that performs at a high level and just so happens to look great. You can’t build a castle on quicksand, so sometimes you need to take a step back and make sure that the appropriate foundation is in place. Foundations aren’t built with gimmicks; they’re built with hard work and scientific practices.

Also, functional anatomy is the basis of everything you do; all lifters should make a point of learning about how their bodies are built. Structure dictates function, and function dictates performance and dysfunction.

Wannabebig:
What are your biggest pet peeves in the gym?

Eric C: To be honest, I’m at the point where I pick my battles – and they’re few and far between. When I go to train, I’m not concerned at all about what other people are doing; I’m there to get a job done, so what people on the other side of the room are doing doesn’t affect me one way or another. Plus, at South Side, we don’t really have the distractions you find at your local commercial gym.

As a coach, it’s a bit different. I don’t think very highly of all the ‘flavor of the week’ garbage that’s out there nowadays; everyone is out to make a buck on products and programs that aren’t impressive at all. Almost everything has its place, but adopted one thing like kettle-bells or unstable surface training and excluding other valuable interventions is shortsighted and just plain stupid. All things in moderation, you know?

And, to be more blunt, my biggest pet peeve about this industry is how many fitness professionals (and I use that term loosely) are giving simply bad advice. Brian Tracy has written that you need to read at least one hour per day to be in the top 10% of professionals in your chosen field – and it’ll make you an expert within two years. I doubt most trainers read an hour in a month. They get their weekend certifications and then do the bare minimum each year just to get their continuing education credits, and the industry as a whole never gets to the next level. If you really think about it, the lack of regulation in our industry is absolutely scary; a bad training program can do as much acute and chronic damage to someone as a car accident or repetitive stress occupation, respectively. It’s time that the entire industry started holding itself to a higher standard.

Wannabebig: What’s the number one thing you see that needs to be addressed in lifters?

Eric C: Hands down, it’s attitude. I get into this below.

A close second is structural balance. If 80% of Americans are having back pain in their lives, something is out of whack. You can bet that the other 20% will have knees, hips, and/or shoulders that give them problems somewhere along the line, too. If training is supposed to make us feel better, be stronger, and live longer, why are so many people leaving the gym in pain and having to take extended periods off from training just to get healthy?

I’d say that the answer is pretty simple: the programming is just plain bad. And, the problem isn’t restricted to those writing their own programs; I get emails all the time from people who have gotten hurt from doing cookie-cutter programs put forth by some of the industry’s most recognized coaches.

Wannabebig: What’s the best piece of training advice you can give someone starting out?

Eric C: Attitude is everything. You can have the best training program in the world, but if you don’t have attitude, you’ll never come even close to your potential.

And, this is consistent attitude. It’s not good enough to just get motivated for a week here and a week there; you’ve got to adopt things full-throttle and give them time to settle in as positive habits. I’ll take a consistently good lifter over a sporadically incredible lifter any day of the week. This is actually why I think that training partners (and entire crews, if possible) are so valuable. They ensure that the attitude is always there; you pick them up if they need it, and they do the same for you.

Wannabebig: Are there any words of wisdom with regards to training/nutrition/supplementation?

Eric C: Kind of an open-ended one, huh? I could go on all day about this, but let’s just bullet-point ten to stir up some discussion.

1. Most people need to just focus on getting stronger. It’s going to be a lot easier to measure progress by how much weight is on the bar than it is to tell if you’ve gained 0.02487 pounds of lean body mass in the past week. Get stronger, eat right, and the chips will fall where they may. This is something that has definitely held true in my experience.

2. Watch out for cookie-cutter programs. When in doubt, try to find someone knowledgeable who can help you modify it for your needs.

3. Worry less about supplements and more about lifting heavy stuff.

4. The bulk/cut mentality is, in my opinion, completely outdated. Who is to say that you can’t do both? I discussed this in great detail in a recent newsletter of mine; check it out.

5. You need back off phases. Sometimes, you need to know that it takes one step backward to take another step forward.

6. If more people did single-leg work, I would have a lot fewer injuries to fix.

7. On the subject of injuries, three primary ways to dramatically reduce your risk of injury are mobility training, soft tissue work (ART, foam rolling), and regular old static stretching. Make each a priority just as you do for lifting and cardiovascular activity.

8. Recovery from training is just as important as the training itself.

9. Most people need to eat a lot fewer carbs and a lot more protein and healthy fats.

10. Everyone has something to teach. Read books, attend seminars, chat with other lifters and coaches, and experiment in your own training. All these efforts will only make you better at what you do and bring you closer to your goals.

Wannabebig: Where can readers find out more about you, Eric?

Eric C: They can check out my website, www.EricCressey.com, and subscribe to my free weekly newsletter while they’re there.

Thanks for having me.

Wannabebig: Hey, it’s our pleasure.

Written by Maki Riddington

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